Fanboy Buzz – Episode #069 - Comic Book Podcasts

Created on August 20, 2011 and written by
Category: Fanboy Buzz - Comic Book Podcasts

IN THIS EXTRA LONG EDITION OF THE FANBOY BUZZ we’re joined by a long-lost host (who could it be)? We’ll chat about the new Walking Dead Video Game, we’ll talk about how Stan Lee is signing hidden copies of Ultimates #1 and Hawkeye #1 and how Jack Kirby’s estate has officially filed an appeal to the recent court ruling against them. Jason talks about the IMAGE COMICS 9/11 Comic Book “THE BIG LIE” which leads us into a nice “healthy” debate about all sorts of things surrounding the comic including 9/11 itself. After our news secion Jason takes the time to sit down with ARLEN SCHUMER (comic book-style illustrator and author of books including “Silver Age of Comic Book Art”) who has some great insight about the Jack Kirby issue and how he thinks its beyond a legal issue at this point. After our special interview we’ll launch TWO new segments — Steve Boyd introduces us to “Re-Opening the X-Files” and JS gets us going on his STAR WARS segment called “JS Wages War Against The Rebels”. Of course our usual segments are still around with Stephen Supports Sucky Comics features SPIDER-ISLAND CLOAK AND DAGGER #1, Hellblazing features HELLBLAZER issues 41 to 45, Jason Dyer has his RAPID FIRE REVIEWS and Issue to Issue features FEAR ITSELF #5, DC RETROACTIVE SUPERMAN THE 80s #1 & HEART #1. We wrap up this week’s podcast with the “TWO DEAD CHARACTERS” segment we’ve been chatting about for quite some time (ironically a few of the hosts only mention 1) in our FANBOY FEEDBACK portion of the podcast. Call us at 239-244-2899!

Show Note 1: In Jason Dyer’s Rapid Fire Reviews he asks you to watch this youtube video.

Genre: Comic Book Podcast | Updates: Weekly | Duration: 161 minutes | Subscribe: RSS Feed


8 Responses to “Fanboy Buzz – Episode #069”

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    Fanboy Buzz (@FanboyBuzz):

    08-20-2011 2:46 pm

    #ComicBook #Podcast Fanboy Buzz – Episode #069: IN THIS EXTRA LONG EDITION OF THE FANBOY BUZZ we’re joined by a …


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    Ray Wegner (@rjw1213):

    08-20-2011 3:48 pm

    Check these guys out !!! “@ProjectFanboy: 9/11 Conspiracy AND Jack Kirby Debates both in one podcast. Crazy!” #comics


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    08-23-2011 8:22 am

    Hello gentlemen,

    This is an excellent podcast. You covered so many topics and I enjoyed the discussions you had during each of them.

    Let me start by saying Scott was a great addition this week. If you return again to the podcast, Scott, you will provide a great practical voice to the conversation. Your time away from comics gives you a sort of innocent view on the topics. It is very refreshing.

    J.S. – I will give the Star Wars Empire Books a shot. I will also give Legacy a go, as Jason had suggested. In which series does Luke’s powers ascend to the level that he flies through space without use of a spacecraft?

    Jason – I thought your interview Arlen Schumer was pretty good. I did think, however, that he was a bit tangential – often his conversation strayed to a promotion of his own work. He did have a valid point concerning authorship in the case of Kirby. Stan Lee holds half the creative development rights of characters created under the Marvel banner and Kirby has none. If the characters were designed for Marvel comics or its predecessor, Atlas comics, then what is the reason for giving Stan any rights to the characters at all? It is either as J.S. said, he had a better contract, or he bought the rights as part of a package while moving up in the company. No matter the reason, he made a smart decision, while Jack got shafted as mere labor. If I remember correctly, didn’t Marv Wolfman, creator of Blade, also get shafted recently? They sited in that case, that Marvel’s use of the character was different enough from the original creation, that it did not infringe on Marv’s creative ownership of the Original Property. If you want an idea of how gray that argument can be, here is an example – Image and Marvel both had a Thor character. The name is protected by its antiquity, seen as public domain and Marvel could not sue Liefeld for his Thor design because it did not appear in any similar fashion to Marvel’s Thor. In this way, anyone can create a Thor character without being sued and Marvel can claim that no Kirby or Ditko design character appears exactly in the fashion which they had designed beyond the point of their drawing the comics. In which case, these gentlemen were paid already for their contribution.
    Without that little bit of legality, Marvel and any creator, corporate or independent, would lose his shirt with claims by every writer and artist that they designed or created an aspect of an item and deserve compensation.
    The most important question when deciding creative rights to a project is this; would the creator in question have designed the piece without the encouragement of the other force?
    Arlen’s argument using Directors and Screenwriters can only be used for the Marvel Bullpen technique of storytelling, but if Arlen’s example is reviewed more in depth, the relationship and pay between screenwriters and directors is not equal. A director can sell a crap screenplay by virtue of his vision, making him a huge commodity. Meanwhile, a screenplay depends completely on a studio’s and a director’s ability to envision what it can become. Likewise, an artist work in commercial art, is only as good as the product it can sell. Stan was selling superheroes and Jack and Steve dressed the ideas up nicely enough that they were marketable. Thus they got paid for their work.

    Still, in like of the suffering that artist like David Cockrum suffered, it would be nice to see some kind of support come from the big comic companies for their creatives.

    9/11 Books – I do not think this person’s book will be any more of a seller than those blue water Palin and Obama books. Serious theorists and speculators regarding 9/11 more often seek out more reputable looking sources like books or periodicals. Some guy who comes out with a graphic novel about that tragedy will find the same people who read the tabloids at the supermarket counter and send away for as seen on TV garbage are his core audience. It is a gag comic, even if that wasn’t the intention.

    Fear Itself 5 – That was a terrible book. If I were looking at it as a pre-teen/teen as I was when I first read comics, then I may have been slightly enthralled with some of the frames of action. At this time, this whole series has been missing the depth I hunger for at my age.
    Also, the writing can be geared toward a juvenile, but not written like one. FI 5 is just poor with little recovery made by the art.

    Thor’s dialogue. Jason – suck it up, Thor’s personality, values and mystique are conveyed in his use of language as much as it is in his appearance or within frames depicting Asgard. If he becomes an earthbound trash-talker, then the character definitely loses something. The same can be said about the Lion of Olympus, Hercules. In contrast, I listened to the FBB crew trash Hulk when he became intelligent primarily because he wasn’t Hulk anymore – speaking so highbrow. You see proof that the writing/language makes up the character as much as the appearance.

    One last thing, Thor not being able to defeat Hulk in an amoral fight to the death brawl makes no sense. In What If the Hulk went bersek? (Vol 1, Issue 45), Thor killed Hulk ultimately by unleashing his full strength and the force of Mjolnir (prounounced Mage – awl – nor) on a battle-wearied Banner and then burns the body in a lighting strike. If Thor didn’t think he could take Hulk, there wouldn’t have been an Avengers #1. I am not a fan of Fraction primarily because I don’t think he has a strong grasp of the history of the characters and first looks to put his own spin on them which he may believe makes them identifiable to a modern audience, but I personally think it caters to the LCD, lowest common denominator, of comic book readership. My understanding of the vocabulary and diction improved tremendously by reading comics and I am of the school that believes comics can provide support for education when they are written well and conscientiously with their readership’s best interest in mind.

    I have went on yet again and I apologize for that. Perhaps you may take it as flattering that your conversations online would inspire such a response from a listener. That, however, is not for me to say. Keep up the good work and I look forward to the next podcast.

    If I resurrected a character, it would be Jean Grey. Bringing her back from the dead again would completely throw the X-Titles on their heads and may make for such crazy plot twists that even Chris Claremont would go WTF!!!



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    08-23-2011 8:28 am

    “Still, in like of the suffering that artist like David Cockrum suffered” – meant to say: “Still, in light of the suffering that artists like David Cockrum suffered…”

    Sorry about that.


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    08-23-2011 8:33 am

    “My understanding of the vocabulary and diction improved tremendously by reading comics ” – this should read: My understanding of the use of vocabulary and diction improved tremendously by reading comics…

    Obviously, my typing and proofreading skills are still lacking :) – Later


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    08-23-2011 8:29 pm

    Thanks for the feedback. I’m sure we’ll be talking about it again tonight. =)

    Always appreciated.


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    08-23-2011 10:21 pm

    My thoughts on Matt Fraction: please do not misconstrue what I wrote as trashing Matt’s writing skills. I think he is better suited writing about characters with inherent, humanistic weaknesses and vulnerabilities. Tony Stark, Matt Murdock and Henry Pym are all characters whose frailties allow for Fraction’s exploration of the human condition and what it takes to be a hero, but I think characters who are iconic, such as Thor and Captain America cannot be so easily cut down to the everyman level and need a more patient, delicate hand to craft their “descent” into human weakness.
    I enjoy Ed Brubaker because he maintains the mystique of the characters of whom he writes while exploring new facets of their personality. I am sure though, that even Ed would find some characters difficult to write as well.
    Matt only proves that not every character is good for every story and not every writer is good for every character.


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    Brian Romanoff:

    09-01-2011 8:44 pm

    Thanks for covering The Big Lie.

    If you want to have another PodCast about it, or a section, I would entertain coming on to your show.

    I found the diversity in opinions on the show are “healthy” as you said. Thanks.

    Anyhow. I’m here if you want to talk!

    Brian Romanoff
    Truth Be Told Comics


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